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Present & Future Fernvale Residents said, we trust to right the wrongs 现在与未来的芬威尔的居民说:老百姓错误的把信任寄托在行动党身上!

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(声明及对话会记录摘要中英文对照)本文章翻译自以下网址:

1.http://redwiretimes.com/singapore-in-brief/sengkang-columbarium-residents-life-corp/ 

2.芬威尔居民与国会议员蓝彬民、国家发展部、城市重建局以及Life Corporation Limited 的CEO举行的对话会现场视频网址:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=vb.295323107252451&type=2

我在盛港西各族同胞们,团结起来,把行动党安置在他们要建造的骨灰瓮塔!——支持盛港西Fernvale Lea预售组屋持有者的合理诉求(BTO BUYERS)》(见:https://wangruirong.wordpress.com/2015/01/06/%e7%9b%9b%e6%b8%af%e8%a5%bf%e5%90%84%e6%97%8f%e5%90%8c%e8%83%9e%e4%bb%ac%ef%bc%8c%e5%9b%a2%e7%bb%93%e8%b5%b7%e6%9d%a5%ef%bc%8c%e6%8a%8a%e8%a1%8c%e5%8a%a8%e5%85%9a%e5%ae%89%e7%bd%ae%e5%9c%a8%e4%bb%96/)说了:

“目前,行动党以及他们圈养在主流媒体和哪些得意洋洋自以为自己是‘房地产专业人士’在为行动党犯上的这个严重错误进行任何狡辩、扭曲和涂脂抹粉的事后‘返工修补工程’只能让行动党更进一步陷入泥潭里!

既然行动党大爷们以及他们圈养在主流媒体不承认自己犯上错误,执迷不悟,预售组屋的持有者就完全有理由反对者建设项目!

既然行动党大爷们这么执意要让一个属于以赚取商业盈利为主的性质的商业机构继续建设这个项目,那么,巴西立——盛港西集选区的选民们就有理由团结起来反对这个建设项目!

巴西立盛港西的同胞们,把行动党的大爷们送进和安置在这个他们执意要建设的骨灰瓮塔,让他们可以在这个骨灰瓮塔里安享晚年!

盛港的居民在芬威尔预售组屋者在2015年1月4日的对话会后也致函给总理李显龙和国家发展部许文远发表,表达了他们对建屋发展局执意要把芬威尔属于宗教用途性质地段颁发给一家非宗教机构或慈善机构,以商业盈利为主导的外国(澳大利亚)上市企业属下的全资子公司开发建设与经营华人庙宇骨灰瓮安置塔等殡葬业务。为此盛港居民发表了封信。

以下是芬威尔连路现有和未来的组屋居民致信给国家发展部长许文远的诉求信件全文:

以下是现已居住居民和即将居住在芬威尔区的屋主致信给总理李显龙和国家发展部长许文远有关国家发展部颁发有关芬威尔连路地段给予一家在澳大利亚注册的上市企业Life Corporation Limited (以下简称‘LC’)属下全资子公司Eternal Pure Land Pte Ltd (EPL)在拟议中建设发展芬威尔连路的组屋区地段范围建造骨灰瓮安置塔的项目。

 

 

 致:

尊敬的国家发展部长许文远先生

事项:关于芬威尔连路华人庙宇的骨灰瓮塔项目事宜

 

 一、我们再此向您提出有关家屋发展局盼发有关的地段给予一家属于澳大利亚上市公司Life Corporation Limited (以下简称‘LC’)全资子公司Eternal Pure Land Pte Ltd (EPL)(在芬威尔连路组屋)块地段开发建设华人庙宇事宜。

二、我们是一群目前和未来在建屋发展在此地段建设中的芬威尔组屋的屋主。尽管我们当中对上述发展项目有不同的看法,但是, 我们为此发展项目达致的如下的共同意见:

 

 

三、首先是我们是一个属于不同宗教的群体。我们认为,我们完全不同意由一个属于商业性质的企业参与投标属于宗教用地和在利用宗教的名义下进行赚取利润的活动。 

四、在有关的慈善法令约定下,任何与宗教活动的组织都必须依据上述法律的规定和受到慈善总监的监督。这就是说,在芬威尔连路建设的华人庙宇必须是一个在慈善总监注册下的非盈利组织。

 

 

 

五、显然,在上个星期天(2015年1月4日)我们与有关当局举行的对话会上,LC的代表在会上已经承认他们的公司并不是以一个非盈利组织或是一家注册属于宗教性质的组织。 

 

 

六、这将会立下一个极其恶劣的影响典范和为新加坡所有的宗教组织开了先例,其中包括了(不限于)佛教、基督教、天主教和兴都教……等等。这些宗教都注册成为非盈利的组织。对于它们而言,这是不合理的。它们是无法与这些具有雄厚资金实力的商业实体进行竞争投标适用于本来数量已经极少的宗教用途性质的地段(供建设庙宇或教堂)的。例如华人的庙宇。我们注意到,在过去20年,国家发展部拨出20个地块供他们投标。

 

 

 

七、犹有胜者,这家中标这地块的Eternal Pureland Pte Ltd是注册为一家从事于与殡葬等与殡仪相关业务范围(包括了提供遗体防腐、火葬、建造和维护坟墓、售卖丧家祭拜所需的祭品和服务)。这家公司的注册日期是在这地段宣布进行招标前16天才注册成立的。它完全不具备任何有关管理华人庙宇的实际经验。 

 

 

八、我们也获悉,EPL在刊登的广告里说,他们售卖的骨灰瓮原售价是每个是$15,000。现在的优惠价是每个$65,00。我们不认为,制定这样的骨灰瓮安置的特价对于我们这些住在的建屋发展局的组屋区的普通人有任何好处。

 

 

九、我们当中的许多人都有自己的宗教信仰。我们极其深切关注看到建屋发发展局允许宗教‘商业化’。我们为此重申:我们坚决反对任何具有商业性质的企业在宗教的幌子下牟利。

 

 

 

十、我们希望建屋发展局基于这种(招投标的)决定(以商业盈利为目的的企业参与招投标的企业)将会影响新加坡所有的宗教组织的行为的投标实属无效的。 

 

 

十一、我们希望,假设建屋发展局要重新招标该地段,它可以考虑这个建设发展华人庙宇的地段的项目可以把庙宇和儿童/学生护理综合中心结合在一块儿。这个儿童/学生护理综合中心必须是向所有的种族开放的。这样将有助于这个社区,特别是那些有孩子的年轻夫妇。 

 

 

十二、这是一个可以令人满意和完善的解决方案。对于许多预售组屋申请者和那些目前已经居住在这个地区,但是并不知道这个发展项目的计划的居民来说,它将是可以避免产生许多不必要的争论的。

 

 

 

十三、我们将非常遗憾,假设建屋发展局坚持建设这个骨灰瓮塔和华人庙宇(的地段)颁发给有关公司。 

 

 

十四、我们所以会措手不及的原因是:我们完全信任政府的法定单位。我们已经期望建屋发展局(在执行国家政策)提供重要信息时是具有透明化的、公开的和更前瞻性的。我们根本就不敢想象一个如建屋发展局这样具有很好的信誉和房地产发展巨子会在推销这个项目的说明文字里把最重要的信息隐瞒在深化图里和以模糊的文字(例如包括‘可能’的字眼)加上免责声明来推荐这个项目。 

 

 

十五、我们相信,假设这个建设项目附加了一些设施(如地铁、轻轨和康乐设施等)是有利于建屋发展局这个预售项目取得更好的销售价格。建屋发展局应该会突出和强调这些附加设施。建屋发展局提供(类似于建造骨灰瓮塔)这方面的信息将只会让更多有意购买者对这个区域的组屋失去吸引力和导致它的价格低落。 

 

 

十六、这并不是一起‘孤立事件’,而是出现在大范围了。因此,我们认为,建屋发展局必须认真看待我们的诉求,依据每个个案的具体情况,在无任何惩罚性质的先决条件下退还我们的预付款的诉求。建屋发展局必须在更加透明化和公平的基础上解决那些要求全额退还预付款的买主。 

十七、我们希望,建屋发展局在处理那些要求全额退还预付款予以的公平条件是: 

1..全额退还那些已经支付的押金;     

 

2.不可以施加任何的技术惩罚(例如:必须等待一年才支付。);

3.具有优先权购买建屋发展局在其他地段建设发展的组屋项目。

十八、即便是建屋发展局全额退还我们的预付款,对我们而言这是最坏的选择。我们还是坚持认为:建设一个附有儿童/学生护理中心的华人庙宇的项目将会受益于绝大多数人的利益的。

十九、我们非常遗憾的建屋发展局并没有撤销授予获得此地段的LC公司的标的,而是让它继续按照原设计计划执行。犹有甚者,建屋发展局已经拒绝了那些要求公平全额退还预付款的买主的诉求。

二十、我们希望,国家发展部可以做出正确决定的事情,确立了不允许属于商业性质的实体参与投资发展属于宗教用地性质的投标建设项目记录。这并不是仅仅对我们这个项目而已,而是整个新加坡。这样,就可以把目前LC已经获得的标的地段视为无效。

二十一、正如古人所说的,要取得他人信任是难如登天,但是,要是去他人的信任缺失易如反掌。对您而言,我们是错误的信任寄托在你们的。  

谢谢。

您诚挚的现有与未来的芬威尔居民

 

The below is an open letter sent by residents from Fernale to Minister Khaw Boon Wan for National Development and Prime Minister Lee .

     

Read the report on the dialogue session held with the residents and Dr, Lam Pin Min on Januarary 2015.

 

To:

Mr. Khaw Boon Wan

Minister for National Development

Dear Minister,

Re: Fernvale Link Columbarium of Chinese Temple.

 

1. We refer to the issue of HDB awarding the land meant for Chinese Temple to a private commercial company, Eternal Pure Land Pte Ltd (EPL), owned by the Australian Public Listed company, Life Corporation Limited (LC). 

 

2.We are a group of present and future residents of Fernvale HDB estate who will be affected by the abovementioned development. Although we have different concerns of the said project, but we have come to the following consensus and conclusions. 

3. First and foremost, all of us in the group, with different religions, agree that it is totally inappropriate for a commercial company to bid for a land meant for religious use and to make money in the name of religion. 

4. It is implied in the Charity Act that any organization with advancement of religion should be subjected to the Act and supervised by the Commissioner of Charities. It means that anyone who runs a Chinese Temple at Fernvale must be a non-profit organization registered with the Commissioner of Charities.                          

5. Apparently from the dialogue we had on last Sunday (4 Jan 2015), the representative from LC has admitted that they are not a non-profit organization or a registered religious organization.

6. This will set a very bad example and precedent for all the religious organizations in Singapore, including but not limited to Buddhist, Christians, Catholics, Hindu etc. Registered religious organizations are non-profit organizations and it is unfair for them to compete with commercial entities which have more financial power to tender for the very limited land slated for religious purposes. For the example of Chinese Temple, we notice that only 20 plots of land were slated for tender by HDB over more than two decades.

7. Moreover, the company, Eternal Pureland Pte Ltd, which won the tender, is registered as company which deals with Funeral and related activites (including embalming, Cremating and Cemetery services upkeep of cemeteries, sales of bereavement products and services). This company was incorporated only 16 days after the tender was called and it has absolutely no experience whatsoever in running a Chinese Temple.

8. We have also learned from the advertisement put up by EPL that they are marketing their niche at the price of $6,500, which is a discounted price from its original $15,000. We do not think such columbarium which put up such Premium Prices could serve ordinary HDB heartlanders like us at all.

9. Many of us have a religion and this is a grave concern to us to see the official stance of HDB in allowing religion to be “Corporatized”. We reiterate that we are against commercial companies making money in the name of religion.

 

10. We hope that HDB should declare the tender null and void as such practice affects all religious organizations in Singapore.

11. We hope that in the event of putting the land up for tender again, HDB could consider the combination of Chinese Temple with Childcare/Student Care. The Childcare/Student Care centre should be required to open to all races. This will serve the community well as many of the residents are young couples with kids.

12. This will be the most satisfactory and perfect solution to prevent any unwanted disruption to the many BTO buyers who were misled by HDB as well as present residents who weren’t even made known of this development at all when they bought their flats.

13. It will be totally regrettable if HDB insisted in carrying on the building of the columbarium and the Chinese Temple.

14. The reason why so many of us were caught off guard is because we have placed so much trust in a government statutory board. We have expected HDB to be transparent, open and more forthcoming with important information. We didn’t expect a reputable and biggest developer of properties like HDB would hide critical material information under ultra fine prints and vague uncertain phrases (eg. “may include”) coupled with disclaimers.

15. We believe that if there were information which could help HDB to fetch a better price for the BTOs (eg. Mall, LRT stations, amenities etc), HDB would surely have put them up prominently and affirmatively. We expect HDB to do likewise for information (eg. Columbarium) that may make the flats less attractive to most buyers and thus, fetch lower prices for HDB.

16. These are not “isolated cases” but happened in a massive scale. Thus, we feel that HDB should not treat our demand for refund without other penalties as a case by case basis. HDB should be more transparent and fair in dealing with all those who wanted a full refund.

17. We expect that HDB treats those of us who wanted a full refund fairly with the following conditions:

18. We feel that this is the worst option for all of us, even if full refund is given to some. We still hope that the option of having a Chinese Temple with Childcare/Student Care could be granted as it serves almost everyone’s interests.

 

a) full refund of whatever deposits paid;

b) no technical penalty (eg. 1 year wait) should be applied;

c) priority to select alternative flats in other development.

 

19. It would be utterly regrettable if HDB did not void the tender to LC and let it proceed as planned. Even worse if HDB refused to treat all of those who seek a full refund fairly.

20. We hope that you, as the Minister of the ministry, could do the right thing, not only for us but for the whole of Singapore, to set the record right by disallowing commercial entities to bid for land slated for religious purposes. Thus, void the current tender to LC.

21. As the old saying goes, Trust is hard to earn but easy to lose. In you, we trust to right the wrongs. Thank you.

Present & Future Fernvale Residents

Yours truly,

以下是2015年1月4日盛港居民与盛港西国会议员蓝彬民、建屋发展局及城市重建局就芬威尔连路建设骨灰瓮塔项目的对话会片段摘要记录:

盛港居民问:

为什么建屋发展局选择一家寻求赚取盈利高于宗教组织的公司去建造骨灰瓮安置塔?

Life Corporation

不是一家宗教组织或者是一家慈善机构、或者是非盈利组织、或者是在处理殡葬服务具有经验的公司。为什么建屋发展局要在所有的宗教组织之外选择专家公司呢?

这是愤怒的盛港居民要知道的是事实。

Redwire公司第一次披露有关Life Corp时,我们获悉Life Corp的注册资本是星币1元的公司。

Eternal Pure Land中标后将会自身进行开发、建设和管理这个庙宇/骨灰瓮业务。

但是,又如何?

接下来的问题是:对于Life Corp来说,是不是只是进行着一种推手的策略,这样它可以获取在盛港的这块土地。

民众已经发出强烈的呼吁,要求建屋发展局公开它们为什么会把这个地段的土地契约颁发给Life Corp’s Eternal Pure Land专家公司。

无论如何,这是一家由Life Corp以注册资本星币1元作为启动的公司。这家公司的业务是再生医药(这就说,它的专业是让人生存,直到2013年它收购了新加坡殡仪服务公司),它击败 了其他宗教组织的参与投标者而赢得了这块地段。

以下文字是摘录了居民与盛港西国会议员蓝彬民和Life Corp CEO 代表Simon Hoo在2015年1月4日上的记录。

 

Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):

你并没有回答我的问题:这块地段是否是由Life Corp or Eternal Pure Land管理?

 

 

Life Corp CEO 代表Simon Hoo,他以英语发言):

针对这个问题本身而言,Life Corp是其母公司;Eternal Pure Land是本庙宇项目的业主、发展商和经营者。因此,Eternal Pure Land将会营运这个项目,但是,它的管理层是来自相同的Life Corp团队。

 Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):

既然是这样, Life Corp/Eternal Pure Land在新加坡是否注册成为一个宗教组织?

 Life Corp CEO 代表Simon Hoo,他以英语发言):

不是的。它不是注册为一家宗教集团。

 

Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):(她转向在场的听众):

这样行末?还是不行?

 在场听众喝彩。

Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):

请问,这是不是一家非盈利的组织?

  Life Corp CEO 代表Simon Hoo,他以华语发言):

不是。

  在场听众再一次喝彩。

 Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):

请问,它是不是注册成为一家慈善机构?

Life Corp CEO 代表Simon Hoo

不是。

在场听众的喝彩声更大。

   

Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):

假设您(对我提出的问题)的答案都是‘否定’的,那么,这家公司肯定没有没有在新加坡佛教总或者是道教总会注册成为会员吧!您说,我说的对吗?

  Life Corp CEO 代表Simon Hoo

是的。是的。

这时在听众席上发出的喝彩声更加响亮了。

Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,她华语发言):

假设在这样的(公司)背景下,它怎么可以参与这块土地使用性质属于华人庙宇的招投标呢?

在场的听众继续发出强烈的喝彩声。

 Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,继续以她华语发言):

假设您是不是以Life Corp名义参与这场招投标。我想,这是一个极其严重的问题。假设您是以一家上市公司的名义参与这场招投标,那么,我可以这么说吗?您是在利用宗教的名义为您的上市公司……

 她的问题被在场的听众的喝彩声所淹没了。

 蓝彬民医生(以英语发言):

在Simon回答有关问题前,我想,这里实际上在这个对话会上是有两个层面的问题。对吗?第一个层面的问题是:在芬威尔连路设立一个骨灰瓮塔的问题。这是第一个侧面的问题。另一个问题是:我想,这是一个问题是其他的居民极其关注的问题的这个层面。另一个问题是实质上是有关招投标和华人庙宇的活动的问题。对吗?好的。那么,我们就得把这两个问题清楚的分开来。当然,我们将会得到Simon先生,以及城市重建局和建屋发展局在这里为我们提供这些问题的确实答案。

Sharon Toh(芬威尔居民,继续以她华语发言):

但是,蓝先生,假设(LIFE CORP 和Simon)不属于任何的宗教集团,他们怎么可以成为是华人庙宇呢?

‘浑蛋’,一些人在镜头外发出的声音。 

蓝:

我们的建屋发展局和城市重建局的同事将会针对这些问题给予回答,因此我们不要急着对这些过早下结论。好吗? 

有一个在镜头外发出的声音。

 ‘为什么不现在就回答呢?’

蓝彬民医生:

因要一些按循序,啦。我们不要把所有的问题混在一块儿。我们还有时间。行吗?我们有充足的时间回答所有的问题。 

Sengkang Residents Press for Answers:

Why did HDB Select a Profit-Seeking Company Over Religious Organisations to Build Columbarium?

Life Corporation isn’t a religious organisation, or a charity, or a non-profit organisation, or a company which has expertise in columbarium services. So why did the HDB select it over other religious organisations?

That’s what furious Sengkang residents want to know.

In Redwire’s first expose on Life Corp, we revealed that Life Corp set up a $1 company, Eternal Pure Land just days before the tender to bid for the temple/columbarium contract.

Eternal Pure Land won the bid, and will own, develop and manage the temple/columbarium site.

But, how?

Questions have been raised, as to whether Life Corp, is pulling a tactical stunt just so it can acquire the area in Sengkang.

There’s also been greater calls from the public for the HDB to come clean on its selection process before awarding the contract to Life Corp’s Eternal Pure Land.

After all, it’s a $1 company started by Life Corp which used to deal in regenerative medicine (which means it used to specialise in keeping people alive, until 2013 when it bought over Singapore Funeral Services), which beat other religious organisations to win the contract.

Here’s an excerpt from the transcript of the dialogue session held by Sengkang West MP Lam Pin Min, Life Corp CEO Simon Hoo and residents on Sunday (4Jan).

 

Sharon Toh, Fervale Lea resident (speaking in Mandarin):

You didn’t answer my question: is this piece of land managed by Life Corp or Eternal Pure Land?

Simon Hoo, Chief Executive Officer of Life Corporation Pte Ltd (speaking in English):

To that question itself, Life Corp is the parent company; Eternal Pure Land itself is the owner, developer and operator of this temple site itself. So Eternal Pure Land will be operating it but the management is the same from Life Corp.

Sharon:

If that is the case, is Life Corp/Eternal Pure Land registered as a religious organisation in Singapore?

Simon:

Eternal Pure Land is not a registered religious group.

Sharon then said turn to the audience and said,

“Ok, no.”

The audience applauded.

Sharon:

May I know if it is a not-for-profit organisation?

Simon (speaking in Mandarin):

No.

The audience applauded further.

   

Sharon:

Is it a registered charity?

Simon:

No.

The applause grew louder.

Sharon:

If it’s “no” to everything, you all should also not be registered with the Singapore Buddhist or Singapore Taoist Association. Am I right?

Simon:

Yes, yes.

Even more applause came from the audience now.

Sharon:

If that’s the case how can you bid for this land in the name of a Chinese temple?

The audience went wild with applause.

     

Sharon (continued):

If you are bidding in the name of Life Corp, I think this is a serious problem. If you are bidding in the name of Life Corp, a listed company, can I say that you are using religion as a way for your listed company …

Her question became drowned out by the rousing applause from the audience.

Dr Lam Pin Min (speaking in English):

Maybe just before Simon answers the question, there is actually two aspects to this dialogue session, ok? The first aspect is having the Chinese temple with columbarium service located in Fernvale Link. That’s one aspect. I think there will be other residents who will actually be quite concerned about this aspect. Then the other aspect will be actually the tendering and the running of the Chinese temple activities. All right? Ok, so we have to separate it very clearly and, of course, we will have Mr Simon as well as URA and HDB here to actually help us answer some of this questions.

Sharon:

But Mr Lam, if he (Life Corp and Simon) does not belong to any religious groups, how can they call it a Chinese Temple?

someone off-camera uttered.

“Basket,”

Lam:

Later our HDB and URA colleagues will help explain these queries. So we don’t want to jump to conclusion yet. All right?

another person off-camera shouted.

“Why not explain now?”

Dr Lam Pin Min:

Because we want to have some sequence, lah. We don’t want to jump all over the place. We have time, ok? We have all the time to answer all the questions.

          

 

 

 

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